The Bama Balance S03.E05: It’s 3AM… and I Can’t Get Back to Sleep!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: This show is not a substitute for professional counseling and no relationship is created between the show host or guests and any listener. If you feel you are in need of professional mental health and are a UA student, we encourage you to contact the UA Counseling center at 348-3863. If you are not a UA student, please contact your respective counties crisis service hotline or their local mental health agency or insurance company. If it is an emergency situation, please call 911 or go to your nearest emergency room. [00:00:26] Speaker B: Foreign. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Bama Balance. Real stories about college students, mental health. It's great to be back with you guys today. How about that game? Some game. [00:00:52] Speaker C: I think it was awesome. I watched a bad part of it. [00:00:55] Speaker B: So I was there in most of the. Well, some of the. Most of the heat and at least two of the lightning delays. [00:01:01] Speaker D: But yeah, I was there the whole time and it was. That's longer than I've ever been in that stadium. [00:01:08] Speaker B: Turned into a night game. [00:01:10] Speaker D: It did turn into a night game. Our afternoon kick was our first night game of the year. It was so. I will say it was so surreal. Like, I was so glad to be at that game. [00:01:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:21] Speaker D: Because I don't think something like that happens often or really happens again. Like just the fact that it was so many delays, so many people left. But those people who stayed really wanted to be there. So everyone who was. Even though it wasn't like capacity, it was still pretty rowdy. [00:01:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:37] Speaker D: Which was really cool. [00:01:38] Speaker B: It was so cool to see. And. And I left, you know, right before the second quarter ended when the last lightning delay was sounded. And looking back on it, I watched it from home and, you know, glad we won. But looking back on it, what I should have done is check my. My weather screen or radar to see where the storm was. [00:02:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:03] Speaker B: And thought, oh, you know, if it's far enough, I can just. I'll stick around. I should have done that. Just didn't do it. I was. I was. I was kind of tired after being out there in the heat. [00:02:11] Speaker D: I was exhausted. [00:02:12] Speaker B: It was hot. [00:02:13] Speaker C: It was real hot sitting in that student section. Like, half times. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:17] Speaker C: Are just brutal. [00:02:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, it's hot. But I love the fact that they, you know, for. Went the halftime because of the delays and went right into the third quarter [00:02:25] Speaker D: because it was so late in the second quarter. They were just like, we're just going to have that be the halftime. [00:02:29] Speaker B: I know. [00:02:29] Speaker C: I didn't even realize that happened. [00:02:31] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, the lighting delay. [00:02:32] Speaker C: That's probably why it went by. So quick. [00:02:35] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [00:02:36] Speaker C: Okay. Because I went into the way thinking all like, all right, yeah, I'll be able to watch it. [00:02:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Because you weren't there at the. You were. [00:02:44] Speaker C: So I got to watch the first half, or up until like that two minute mark, I think it was. [00:02:49] Speaker D: Well, we scored three touchdowns in two minutes, so. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Crazy. Crazy. [00:02:53] Speaker C: Yeah. I'll have to go back and. Yeah. You know, I can't believe I haven't gone back and really watched it yet. [00:02:58] Speaker D: Like, we. There's no way we should have been winning at halftime, but we were. And then second half was just. [00:03:04] Speaker B: Oh, second half was all. [00:03:05] Speaker D: All offense. Well, yeah, all us, but also all offense. [00:03:09] Speaker B: Right. [00:03:09] Speaker C: Yeah, I'll have to go back and watch it. [00:03:10] Speaker B: Yeah. That was impressive. I thought so. I'm looking forward to this next. To this next game coming up, you know, so there are a lot of things, too. I'm sort of making a turn here. There are a lot of things that have been, you know, in the news lately, particularly with some of the students at Ole Miss. And certainly our condolences and thoughts are with students, families and students there and. And the campus community. Ole Miss, regarding the recent passing of two students and, you know, just realizing how risky life can be with, you know, certain behaviors, particularly around misuse of drugs and other substances and it's a pretty scary thing. [00:04:00] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely, you know, heartbreaking. But the truth is, you never know where this stuff's coming from. [00:04:11] Speaker B: Right. [00:04:12] Speaker C: What could be in it. [00:04:13] Speaker B: Right. [00:04:15] Speaker C: And hopefully, hopefully at some point here, we'll get down to the bottom of it. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And it's. And it's. And it's more widespread, I think, than. Than we know it to be. And I think that one of the things I've appreciated about our community, our community of students is that when they realize that something needs to be done, they take action and try to do something. Early on in my stay here, I worked with a great group of IOC and Panhellenic students to address the dangers of illicit Xanax use. And so we started that in 2018 and went really up until past the COVID year, so 21 maybe. And by then the. The issue had really been pretty minimal, if existent at all. And so what was great about that initiative is the Xanax Task Force. What was great about that initiative is that, you know, students and student leaders took it upon themselves to create a culture change around how we think about and how we consider the dangers associated with illicit use of any substance and that kind of thing. And certainly something more. We can talk about and something more we can explore in future episodes because I think it would probably be helpful to also get someone as a guest for one of those episodes. [00:05:51] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. [00:05:54] Speaker B: But for this episode, we'll. We'll take another turn and. And rather than announce it now, we can maybe announce it right after this short break as we. As we start our first segment in a minute. But we'll be right back. This is the Baba Bal. [00:06:28] Speaker D: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa. [00:06:31] Speaker A: This show is not a substitute for professional counseling and no relationship is created between the show host or guests and any listener. If you feel you are in need of professional mental health and are a UA student, we encourage you to contact the UA Counseling center at 348-3863. If you are not a UA student, please contact your respective counties crisis service hotline or local mental health agency or insurance company. If it is an emergency situation, please call 911 or go to your nearest emergency room. [00:07:12] Speaker C: What's up, guys? Welcome back to the Bama Balance. We. We always come in here and we kind of just let it fly, but I had some ideas on my phone and Dr. Perez got a random number picker and we landed on something that I'm pretty interested to talk about. It's never been talked about on the podcast before. There's a lot that can be talked about, though, and that's 3am that's what we're gonna call it. But basically it's, you know, what, what keeps you up, you know, from going to sleep, such as things like anxiety, just those common thoughts that kind of get overlooked. But maybe the reason you can't go to sleep or what you're worried about the next day. So it'll be very interesting. Talk about. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Yeah, as. As Brooks kind of introduced that there are a lot of things that keep us up sometimes or, or keep us from going to sleep and whether it's 3am or not, and something that just makes it difficult to get to sleep. And, you know, as we were talking about some of those different things, a lot of things came to mind. You know, different worries, different movies that. That might sort of keep us up with horror and fright, which could be pretty fun. But not when you've got an exam to take that day. [00:08:43] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:08:43] Speaker B: Next day, that's bad. But no, it could be. It'd be kind of fun. Be kind of fun to do. And also thinking about how do you recover or how do you cope with it and. And get some good rest. [00:08:56] Speaker C: Yeah, I know I've, you know, I've Experienced the anxiety side of things. Whether that's like you said, a big exam coming up, just being nervous about different stuff. Like I'm trying to think back. So last year we went to Athens to play Georgia and I could not sleep that Friday night. Like just nervous and nervous, excited and [00:09:22] Speaker D: all the things, just stuff like that. [00:09:23] Speaker C: But also like I've read recently, like, if you eat later. [00:09:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:28] Speaker C: You know, your body gets like a spike and you can't really go to bed. [00:09:32] Speaker B: Right. [00:09:33] Speaker C: Um. [00:09:33] Speaker B: Right. [00:09:33] Speaker C: If you have too much caffeine, coffee too late in the day, you know, I mean there's all sorts of stuff that you know, can keep you up at night. But I think the main thing for most people is probably on the anxiety side of things. [00:09:47] Speaker B: I know it is for me, anxiety or stress, you know. So sometimes when I, when I find myself getting up in the middle of the night, 3am or whatever time it is, it's usually because my mind hasn't wound down completely and so I'm going to bed with something on my mind. Thinking about something. [00:10:06] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:10:07] Speaker B: More recently just sort of thinking about, you know, upcoming meetings and some of the things I need to prep for and what usually. So the theme is usually something I need to do and I don't feel like I have enough time to do it but. But you know, I certainly not going to do it at 3:00am yeah, it's just like. But like I said, it's a worry, it's an anxiety. And for some people it can keep them up for the rest of the night. I don't know about you guys, but there have been times when it's sometimes hard to get back to bed. [00:10:43] Speaker C: I see it a lot too. When I'm like, if I have a flight the next morning. [00:10:48] Speaker B: Right. [00:10:48] Speaker C: Or something like that, my body will wake me up. You know, I guess my mind is just thinking like, we can't sleep through this and then I can't go back to bed. [00:10:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, it's tough. [00:10:57] Speaker C: It's. I mean, you just got to stay up. It's one of those, you look at the phone, you're freaking out, you know, you think it's 10 o' clock in the morning, but it's 2am So I [00:11:07] Speaker B: have so much, I have done that so many times. When you were traveling to Austria in the summer, how did that work out for you? Were you sleeping okay or would you wake up at random times? [00:11:20] Speaker D: I like, like the night before. [00:11:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, because sometimes travel can kind of knock your. [00:11:26] Speaker D: Well, we, we didn't. We, we didn't fly until later that night. Like we had the whole day. So I tried to sleep on the plane. So. So I was up at some. I was probably up at 3am at some point over the ocean. [00:11:42] Speaker B: But I know that's true. [00:11:43] Speaker D: It is, it is, it is like a very. I mean that just throws my whole what semblance of routine I have off like any kind of traveling even if it's just like dry. Like I remember when I went to the spring break, I went to Houston for the rodeo and I stayed up the entire night that night because I was like I'll just sleep on the 10 hour car ride, I'm not driving. So it didn't really work out like that. But I think travel does like mess rhythm up. But I don't necessarily feel like I don't feel the same way staying up for something like travel than I do like just being up because I'm anxious or being up because I've had a bad sleep schedule. And that's one thing that'll happen is I think oftentimes it, you know, if you get into a rhythm of just staying up late and you can afford to sleep like sleep late. [00:12:33] Speaker B: Right. [00:12:34] Speaker D: You obviously like you're not going to be tired until later in that night and there's like. I mean I think it was probably quarantine just because what else are you gonna do? I think my sleep schedule was just three to 10 and then I would just get up, have my day and then stay up till three with my friends on the expo. Like that was just what it was. But it's so different now. I think if I were up till three today I would. There's something bad is happening or I'm. There's a big exam. [00:13:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yep. Those kinds of stressors and anxieties. The other thing I know that keeps. That'll wake me up like in the middle of the night whenever it is is is if I can't, if there's something I can't let go of, you know. So if I'm. If like one, if. If I'm angry with a friend of mine or something like that or just something's happened at one just kind of [00:13:31] Speaker D: like sits in your head. [00:13:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it just sort of sits and it lingers and it like festers. That's the best way that I can describe it just sort of festers and so I don't go to bed having resolved it, but it's still there. And it's certainly still there when I get up in the middle of the night. Still thinking about it. And it's stuff like that is tough to let go of sometimes. [00:13:53] Speaker C: It is very interesting to me, like the different types of things. Like, it's not like one thing you can prevent to keep you from waking up or thinking about stuff like. Yeah, there's all sorts of stuff. [00:14:05] Speaker B: Like when you've had an argument with friends or with a girlfriend, you know, how does, like, how does that affect your sleep? If you're able to let go of it, resolve it, then, you know, it sort of makes it better. But there's those kinds of things that. [00:14:19] Speaker C: Yeah, I think just going like multiple days or. Oh, yeah, you know, like, I hate. I hate going to bed mad or in an argument or anything like that because I can't sleep. You know, I'm thinking about that and the way I am. I am the worst thinker of all time. Like, if I think something, it's bad. Like, I never think good. [00:14:45] Speaker B: Like, what do you mean? [00:14:46] Speaker C: I never have positive outlooks on me. [00:14:48] Speaker D: Like pessimistic. [00:14:49] Speaker C: I'm always the yes. [00:14:51] Speaker B: Oh, I say, thanks for that vocabulary. [00:14:54] Speaker C: I'm always thinking the worst of the worst. Yeah, like an argument like that. Like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna lose my friend, gonna lose my girlfriend. [00:15:02] Speaker B: Gotcha. Oh, gosh. [00:15:03] Speaker C: And you know that, I mean, there really is no way to shut your brain off. [00:15:08] Speaker B: You're sort of in a trap because [00:15:09] Speaker C: then you think about everything. [00:15:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, you're sort of in a trap at that point. Kind of a cycle of doom and gloom that doesn't help at all. [00:15:17] Speaker C: And. And no, no sunshine, kind of no way out. [00:15:20] Speaker B: Oh my gosh. At the. The other thing too is with those kinds of thoughts, they can. I know for me, sometimes they can end up being catastrophizing. Right. So you think the worst and think catastrophically about, you know, a situation or. Gosh, the way that this relationship might end is going to be in the worst possible way. And I don't want it to end, but I don't know how to fix it or I don't know how to resolve it. You know, I know for me, I try. If something's not. If something is bothering me to something like that, I always try to. I'll try to problem solve it, but I mean, and I'll try to problem solve it even as I go to bed. But, you know, sure enough, I'll be like, I'll be awake still trying to figure out how to work through it. Or it's just, you know, it's stuff like that that can sometimes Keep me up at night and, and wake me up at night too. I think the important thing is how do we, how do we recognize it and be able to kind of reframe it, Reframe some of those thoughts. We're not necessarily catastrophizing or making the worst out of what could be something that's solvable. I don't know if you've got any ways that you've found helpful, but it could be something that we talk about in the next segment. I think in terms of what are the ways that we can kind of ease our minds and so those concerns and what are some ways that we can reframe those middle of the night worries and anxieties? [00:16:58] Speaker C: Yeah, I definitely think next segment we can get in on that and I think it's interesting as well as multiple things we've talked about in the past. I think everybody has their own way of combating something of that nature. So that'll be interesting to get Yalls takes on it and see how we all differ in that. Maybe pick up something that'll work from somebody else. So. But this will be it for segment one. We'll be back with segment two. This is the Ben Balance. [00:17:42] Speaker D: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa. [00:17:44] Speaker A: This show is not a substitute for professional counseling and no relationship is created between the show hosts or guests and any listener. If you feel you are in need of professional mental health and are a UA student, we encourage you to contact the UA Counseling center at 348-3863. If you are not a UA student, please contact your respective counties crisis service hotline or their local mental health agency or insurance company. If it is an emergency situation, please call 911 or go to your nearest emergency room. [00:18:26] Speaker D: Hey everyone, welcome back to the BAMA Balance Podcast. We've had a really good discussion so far about, you know, students at 3am it's been. And I've enjoyed it. I've liked the topic. It kind of came. I never, it never pictured this as a topic nor did I did I picture this ever in general frankly. But it's cool and I think it provides a lot of insight into like why, you know, our behaviors are the way they are and, and kind of patterns. And I think about, you know, what are ways we combat kind of the, you know, the nature of not being able to sleep, of having a lot in our minds. And I know I think of one time when I was in high school I, I woke up at about 2 or 3 and never had sleep paralysis [00:19:11] Speaker C: before in my Life. [00:19:12] Speaker D: But for some reason, just. And. And I wasn't, like, there wasn't anything going on. I just, for whatever reason, woke up and couldn't. Couldn't fall back asleep. And it was weird. And I just kind of was up at 2 that day. But I think in the. I didn't know how to necessarily combat it then, but I think later I've, you know, I've found and learned that I think one thing that I can do, especially at night, is just like, breathing. Breathing exercises. Like, taking time to make sure that I'm getting in a rhythm of relaxing. And also, I don't. I didn't realize for the longest time how kind of like, stiff I am when I slept and how that was keeping me awake. Like, sometimes my jaw would be clenched or, like, my hands would be clashed or my legs would be like. It was like, I'm. [00:20:04] Speaker C: You. [00:20:04] Speaker D: For whatever reason, I'm. [00:20:05] Speaker B: You're tensed up. [00:20:06] Speaker D: I'm tensed up. And then I would. More recently, I've thought, what if I just didn't do that? [00:20:13] Speaker B: But you're not doing that, like, intentionally. [00:20:15] Speaker D: No, no. But, like, it was like being mindful enough to understand that that was happening to where I could, you know. [00:20:22] Speaker B: Right. [00:20:23] Speaker D: Kind of figure out how to. [00:20:25] Speaker B: Yep. [00:20:26] Speaker D: Ease that tension a little bit. [00:20:27] Speaker C: Yeah, dude, take after me. I'm full on starfish. Take up the whole bed. Oh, yeah. [00:20:34] Speaker B: You must have a restful sleep then, Proxy. [00:20:36] Speaker C: Oh, I sleep hard. [00:20:37] Speaker B: See, that's. [00:20:38] Speaker C: Unless I'm up at 3am yeah. [00:20:39] Speaker B: That's good. That's good, though. But. But, you know, I think that, you know, being. Being mindful of that is good because then you can hopefully try to figure out what is it that, you know, keeps me tensed up. [00:20:51] Speaker D: Yes. Like, pay attention to what's going on. [00:20:53] Speaker B: Right. [00:20:53] Speaker D: Because obviously, like, what works for me isn't going to work for everyone. [00:20:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:57] Speaker D: You know, because of the reasons that I might be up against my will is, you know, might not be the same reason someone else is up against their will. You know, my anxiety isn't going to be the same, and the way I combat it isn't going to be the same. So I think people like practicing that mindfulness or just like, being aware of, like, okay, what is my. What am I trying to tell myself physically right now? [00:21:16] Speaker B: Right. What is it that gets you tensed up to begin with in those situations? Like, even before you go? [00:21:23] Speaker D: Usually it's just. It's just me. Nothing. Like, it's just me being there. And I'm sure there's. There's probably is a correlation to if I had a long day or. [00:21:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:21:30] Speaker D: Something stressful going on or. I think actually I take the first part of that back. I think, I don't think it's nothing. It seems to me that when I'm trying to fall asleep is when I'm the most tensed up. [00:21:47] Speaker B: Yes, I would, I'd agree with that. Because sometimes for, for me, it's sometimes hard to go to sleep because there's so many things that are still kind of running through my head, running through my brain. I'm thinking, oh, I need to do this, do that. It's like this constant wheel of things that I need to do. Just thoughts in general. And it's sometimes tough to let go of that process. But being mindful of it helps. Helps a lot. [00:22:15] Speaker C: I agree. I feel like, you know, if I have a test or a big assignment coming up, it really gets tough for me to, like, you know, not think about it as I'm about to go to sleep. But recently I have been reading and it is like, I don't know what it does. I'm not sure on the. You probably know more about this than me. But, like, reading just seems to calm me and it takes my mind off of everything else. [00:22:44] Speaker B: That's it. Possible. Yep. [00:22:47] Speaker C: And then I can just go to bed. So much easier. But that is a like. And I haven't woke up in the middle of the night since I've been reading. But if I do, I think I'm going to try to read, like, when I wake up. That may be a little weird, but maybe it'll put me back to sleep. [00:23:06] Speaker B: It's worked for me. So one of the things I do is read before I go to bed. And if I do find myself awake in the middle of the night, I'll try to read again. The worst thing I can do is start checking email at 3 in the [00:23:19] Speaker C: morning or something because then your mind's automatic. [00:23:23] Speaker B: It's back at work. So that's what I, I, that's what I don't do. But no, reading helps me reading something. And it's not like turning on the TV and seeing what's on. That's the worst. [00:23:37] Speaker C: Because then you're hooked on a CI, like, and recently I've kind of been bad about it. I've been watching a show, but it's so good that, like, you know, it's one of those, like, all right, I've got to watch. [00:23:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:23:52] Speaker C: Like, it leaves you that cliffhanger. [00:23:53] Speaker B: Right. What's the show? [00:23:55] Speaker C: It's called the Last Ship. I'm not sure if you've ever watched it. No, it's about the US Navy and they have a boat leave and a worldwide pandemic hits and it's just madness. [00:24:09] Speaker B: But that would keep me awake. [00:24:12] Speaker C: But, but see, and I read after that and I'm perfect and you're fine. [00:24:15] Speaker B: Okay. [00:24:16] Speaker C: But sometimes I stress about little things like, yeah, I hope my alarm wakes me up. You know, checking your alarm eight times [00:24:24] Speaker D: to make sure it's on. [00:24:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm bad about waking up to alarms, but. [00:24:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. But still sounds like you are able to get some good deep sleep when. [00:24:35] Speaker C: Oh yes. [00:24:37] Speaker B: When you're in it. What do you like to. So if you. Do you read or sometimes listening to depending on music. Sometimes listening to music can help too. [00:24:46] Speaker D: I've done both. [00:24:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Has it been helpful? [00:24:49] Speaker D: Obviously it depends on what kind of music. [00:24:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:53] Speaker D: But it certainly can be. Yeah. [00:24:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:54] Speaker D: What I've recently started doing that I think has been the most helpful is I listen to brown noise. [00:25:00] Speaker B: What's that? [00:25:01] Speaker D: Which is like. It's like just. It's like white noise but a different frequency. [00:25:04] Speaker B: Okay. [00:25:05] Speaker D: It's a little less. I. I mean I've never really. I don't really know. It just, it's. I guess like. I like. I just like it more than white noise. I couldn't really tell you why, but it's just, it's. It's good, I'll tell you that. I'll tell you what. It sounds like you're in an airplane. [00:25:22] Speaker B: Isn't that white noise? [00:25:24] Speaker D: But it's like a little more like not. It's not as. I guess like. I don't want to say loud because it's not volume, but it's different. It's a different pitch. [00:25:35] Speaker B: Okay. [00:25:35] Speaker C: It's a little bitch. [00:25:36] Speaker D: Deeper. [00:25:37] Speaker B: It's. [00:25:37] Speaker D: It's a deeper white noise and it is just. It's. I find it very soothing and I've pretty much. Once I did that, I haven't really done anything else since doing it. [00:25:47] Speaker B: So you're. [00:25:48] Speaker C: So you use that every night at this point? [00:25:50] Speaker D: Yeah, that or nothing. I used to always have something whether it was a podcast or music, but now it's either round noise or nothing. [00:25:58] Speaker B: But usually I'll have to check that out. [00:26:01] Speaker C: Lak uses a sound machine that has brown noise on it. And at our house, my. At home, my parents bedroom is like down, right down the stairs. This is my bedroom and a guest bedroom. [00:26:15] Speaker B: Right. [00:26:16] Speaker C: Well, my parents, my dad. Like one of the first times Ellie, Kate Was staying at our house in our guest bedroom. He wakes up and I'm in the living room or something and he's like, dude, what is that noise up there? He was like, it sounds like a plane's taking off. I was like, that is Ellie Kate's sound machine. He's like, how does she. Dude, I'm telling you, it was loud. [00:26:38] Speaker B: I would never. Okay, but it's like a sound machine frequency. [00:26:42] Speaker C: Yeah. It be kind of like somebody listening to waves or rain, Right? Yeah. [00:26:49] Speaker D: I mean, yeah, like that. [00:26:51] Speaker B: That's right. [00:26:51] Speaker D: I'm sure that's what someone did. [00:26:53] Speaker C: Just. Just made a noise to a microphone on repeat. [00:26:56] Speaker D: Put it on repeat. [00:26:57] Speaker B: That's interesting. Yeah. So it's a different pitch. It's. It's sort of white noise at a different picture, that kind of thing. So one of the. This is funny. One of the things I. This is a couple years ago. Do you all have like a digital. Like an Alexa device or something? [00:27:17] Speaker D: I had a Google home actually a couple weeks ago. I have. [00:27:20] Speaker B: So what? One of the new feet. This is a couple years ago, maybe two, three years ago. One of the new features was that it's called Story Time. And if you ask Alexa, say, hey, Alexa, tell me a story. It will go into the story time mode where. And it'll begin. Once upon a time, there were, wow, two children on this beautiful island. And on a wonderful tropical, sunny day, looking at the ocean and the waves as they would come in and out, in and out, and walking along puts you to sleep. [00:28:08] Speaker C: It's like, where's this going? [00:28:09] Speaker B: But I thought, wow, this is kind of neat because it was this sort of, kind of soothing tone. And I, you know, I was. Put me to sleep. However, they had a limited number of stories. And so at one point I tried it again. It was the same story. And I thought, this is not going to work because I know the ending already. [00:28:30] Speaker D: That is so weird about that, though. [00:28:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:33] Speaker D: There was a time where to go to sleep. I would listen to the same chapter [00:28:37] Speaker B: of an audiobook and it would put you to sleep. [00:28:41] Speaker D: Yeah. I don't know what it was, but it was the same. Like, I never like it on repeat. Like every night. Like, I would just say, like it would I put it this setting or like, stop after the track ends. But I would only listen to that one chapter. [00:28:54] Speaker B: Oh, really? Interesting. [00:28:55] Speaker D: I could tell you. [00:28:56] Speaker C: You could tell me a lot about [00:28:57] Speaker D: the first chapter of Magician's Nephew. [00:28:59] Speaker B: Wow. [00:29:00] Speaker D: Couldn't tell you anything about the rest of the book. And it was that first Chapter. [00:29:03] Speaker B: No kidding. And so you. And. But. And so you never went to the second chapter by choice or just by. [00:29:08] Speaker D: Yeah. For whatever. It was like, just. I guess it was the nature of it talking. [00:29:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:13] Speaker D: But it was just interesting to sleep. So I'll just keep doing that. [00:29:17] Speaker C: Man, you have to test out brown noise now. [00:29:19] Speaker B: I know. I'm looking for. I want to. I want to check that out. I want to check that out. [00:29:25] Speaker D: Yeah, should. It's, you know, I enjoy it. But I hope y' all have enjoyed this segment. Hopefully you. You have something new you're gonna listen to tonight to help you sleep when you're up at 3am but we're gonna take one more quick break. We'll be right back with our outro. You've been listening to the bama b. Wvuafm, tuscaloosa. [00:30:01] Speaker A: This show is not a substitute for professional counseling and no relationship is created between the show hosts or guests and any listener. If you feel you are in need of professional mental health and are a UA student, we encourage you to contact the UA Counseling center at 348383. If you are not a UA student, please contact your respective counties crisis service hotline or their local mental health agency or insurance company. If it is an emergency situation, please call 911 or go to your nearest emergency room. [00:30:43] Speaker B: And we're back, everyone on the for the last segment of the bama balance. This has been a lot of fun talking about not only what keeps us up or what gets us up in the middle of the night or 3am but also thinking about ways we can. We can combat it and ways that are helpful for us. I know as we went into the break and just came out of it, there were so many other things that help us combat it or help us go back to sleep. I think is more importantly than other. Some of the things that I think are. That are also helpful and I don't know if we've talked about it is, you know, having your having a bedroom at a good, comfortable temperature. Right. Like, it's really cool. [00:31:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:25] Speaker B: Helps a lot. And, you know, having just, you know, making sure that, you know, the setting is comfortable for you. There's some folks, some friends of mine, who can't sleep without. Without their bedroom being completely pitch black. Yeah. That kind of thing. [00:31:43] Speaker D: Blackout curtains. [00:31:44] Speaker B: Yeah, blackout curtains. Aromatherapy. Brooks and you were mentioned that. [00:31:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:50] Speaker B: And, you know, as oftentimes we do that aromatherapy kind of got us off the rails. We started talking about different. Different aromas like lavender and sugar cookies. [00:32:02] Speaker C: Yeah. Let us straight to food now. We're all hungry. [00:32:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So. And we. And so that led us to also another great, great way to go back to sleep and. Or to get to sleep. And that's some warm milk. [00:32:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:19] Speaker B: As well. That's like a childhood memory too, for me. [00:32:22] Speaker C: See, I've never had milk warm, I don't think. [00:32:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's that warm milk. [00:32:27] Speaker C: But I bet it. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:28] Speaker C: Can't be bad. [00:32:29] Speaker B: Oh, it's pretty. It's not. It can't be bad at all. Yeah, you can be. It can be chocolate milk. You can be like hot cocoa or something like that, you know, And, And Brooks, you looked this up. It was the tryptophan that. [00:32:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:42] Speaker D: There. [00:32:42] Speaker C: I mean, it's proven to help. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:45] Speaker C: Sleep regulation. So that is. I, I. Now that you've said something about that, like, I will be picking up milk. [00:32:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:54] Speaker C: Probably not tonight because I'm going out of town, but next time I'm at the grocery store, I will be getting milk and. [00:32:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:00] Speaker C: Trying to drink glass every night. [00:33:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Would you. So we were also talking about, like, real milk. Edward was saying how he can get his hands on some. [00:33:11] Speaker D: Well, I know someone. I know someone else who can get their hands on it that I can get. [00:33:15] Speaker B: What you have cows, Farm fresh milk. [00:33:17] Speaker D: That, that too. We definitely have, so. [00:33:20] Speaker B: And I've never had farm fresh milk or like, fresh unpasteurized milk before. [00:33:27] Speaker C: I have not. My dad hasn't either. He probably wouldn't. [00:33:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:30] Speaker C: I'd sketch him out a little bit, but my mom definitely. [00:33:34] Speaker B: Sure, I know. And again, I think that. And so much of, you know, so much of our food supply is regulated and, and, you know, for reasons, too. And for health reasons, but, but also, too, when it comes to raw milk that's coming from healthy cows and a reputable source. Seems like there would be a lot of benefits to that, too. [00:33:58] Speaker D: There are. [00:33:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:59] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, it's like eating pure, pure meat off of an animal. [00:34:05] Speaker D: It's like going hunting and getting a deer and. [00:34:08] Speaker C: Yeah. So much better. Yeah. [00:34:12] Speaker B: Not, not processed or. [00:34:13] Speaker C: Right. [00:34:14] Speaker B: Pasteurized so you can. So Edward's going to hook us up with maybe a couple gallons of. Of the real thing. [00:34:21] Speaker D: I'm gonna do my best for legal reason. If anyone who's in some position of law authority is listening to this. I don't know how to do this. [00:34:30] Speaker B: Well, and who knows? It may just show up. One of these days. [00:34:34] Speaker D: It might just show up at Tuscaloosa. [00:34:36] Speaker B: Yeah. One of these days. One of These episodes. [00:34:39] Speaker C: Yeah, that would be awesome. We need to make a push. [00:34:41] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I love it. I love it. I think, though, that, you know, I think it's. It's. It is just one of those things that can help get us back to sleep. And, you know, much like reading or. Or other things help clear our minds. Being mindful of, you know, where our stress is for the day, where our anxieties and worries lie, and being active in coping with those anxieties and realizing there are only so many things we can control and letting things go. And it's okay to wait till the next morning. What we need to do is get some sleep. Particularly these last couple weeks where exams have started. I'm sure that a number of students are also dealing with some of those worries, particularly for the first time, you know, and staying up late or waking up in the middle of the night. But anyway, there's so many things to. That we could talk about just around sleep, hygiene, getting good sleep. And also associated with that are dreams. We haven't talked about dreams yet. [00:35:52] Speaker C: No. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah, so that might be something that. That we also kind of take a look at. It's down the road. I know that because sometimes what wakes me up are like, dreams. Not necessarily nightmares, but dreams are you falling. [00:36:06] Speaker C: Of some very special things. [00:36:07] Speaker B: Really. Okay. [00:36:09] Speaker C: Recently. [00:36:10] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:36:12] Speaker C: One of them comes true. I'm not going to speak on my dreams. [00:36:14] Speaker B: Okay. [00:36:14] Speaker C: Has something to do with a building. [00:36:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:17] Speaker C: In that direction. [00:36:21] Speaker B: All right. I. So. Yes. So you're pointing towards the west, I think is. I think that's the west. Yes. Is that it? Yes. Yeah. The west northwest. Yep. Yeah. [00:36:33] Speaker D: That direction. [00:36:34] Speaker B: This direction. That direction or that direction? This direction. [00:36:38] Speaker C: That direction. [00:36:38] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's maybe west. Well, I get. I get. Yeah, yeah. [00:36:42] Speaker C: You know what? [00:36:42] Speaker B: I'm. Yeah. [00:36:43] Speaker D: That direction of what you're putting down. [00:36:44] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. I got it. We got it. Yeah. So, yeah, that's a new episode, right? Yeah. Dreams. [00:36:50] Speaker D: I like that. [00:36:50] Speaker B: I love it. I love it. This has been fun. This will be fun. So I guess for everybody here, we're wishing everybody a good night's rest. It's been good being here with you all today and. And. And sharing with you some of our thoughts. This is the Bama balance. Real stories about college students, mental Health. I'm Dr. Tony Perez. [00:37:11] Speaker C: I'm Brooks Barbary. [00:37:12] Speaker D: And I'm Edward Chalton. [00:37:13] Speaker B: And we'll see you all next time. [00:37:32] Speaker D: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa. [00:37:34] Speaker A: This show was not intended as a substitute for professional counseling. 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